Welcome back. I'm Ian Masters, and this is Background Briefing, available 24-7 at

Background Briefing.org. And joining us now is Adele Stan, an independent journalist, who is a

longtime chronicler of the right wing of American politics, a winner of the Hillman Prize in

opinion and analysis journalism. Her work has appeared in Mother Jones, the nation, the American

prospect, as well as the op-ed pages of the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times,

and she has an article at the New Republic, CPAC 2024, this year America, tomorrow the world.

Welcome to background briefing, Adele Stan.

Great to be with you, Ian.

So, Adele, the title of your article is undoubtedly a reference to Hitler's

infamous boasts in Deutschland, Huerta, Europe, Morgan de Welt. So, and there's no doubt that it's

appropriate in your coverage of CPAC because there were Nazis at CPAC giving Hitler salute.

And needless to say, there's a lot to talk about in terms of what Bannon and

company were up to.

So was there more than a whiff for fascism?

Yeah.

Yeah, more than a whiff, indeed.

I mean, and it's all of a piece.

I mean, you've got to remember that Bannon was, you know, very excited about the whole Charlottesville escapade, right?

I mean, you know, there were real Nazis there, too.

You know, Steve Bannon has, you know, it's been his project for some time now to try to bust up all of the government institutions of the West, of the Western world.

And, you know, of course, in the United States government as well.

And, you know, there was just flat out talk against democracy at this event at CPAC and various

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