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The Elusive Force: A Powerful Polish Poltergeist Part 2

Astonishing Legends

Scott Philbrook

History, Society & Culture

4.69.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2024

⏱️ 108 minutes

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For part two of our examination of the elusive force that flowed through Joasia Gajeweski, we're fortunate and honored to present a conversation with three knowledgeable professionals familiar with the case. We first learned of this fantastic story and the book that documented it from a clinical therapist, author, parapsychologist, past show guest, and friend, Brandon Massullo. Brandon then offered to put us in touch with psychologist, researcher, and author James Houran, Ph.D., who studied the case extensively. And for the trifecta, another past guest and friend, Michael Kishbucher, connected us with Joel Stern. Joel was a staff translator and reviewer in the Office of Language Services at the U.S. State Department in Washington, DC, for 28 years. He translated The Elusive Force: A Remarkable Case of Poltergeist Activity and Psychokinetic Power into English and spent decades attempting to get the book published, which finally occurred in 2023. Joel also spent time with Joasia and her family during the process and has specific insights into the people and their circumstances. Join us tonight for a lively discussion from the viewpoint of parapsychology and human behavior when it collides with the paranormal, and the impossible becomes impossible to dismiss.

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There's something about the feel of the pen in your hand.


Hello Tess, how are you doing? Love the giant glasses.


Your microphone's muted.


Todd takes it, he does his magic and comes out beautiful every time.


There I am.


The paranormal could be a creative expression of the universe.


Well, that was not me.


I don't know who that guy was.


There might be something you'd collect as a stamp as a kid or a sticker.


That lady on the right there, I could not deal with that mask.


Been a low synchronicity machine of an episode here.


Ed, roll those closing credits.


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