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The Idaho Massacre

The Elizabeth Journals

The Idaho Massacre

iHeartPodcasts

True Crime

3.66.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

We’ve heard about Jake Wagner's wife Elizabeth before, but now the Alaska wife testifies and she’s not holding back. As one of the most mysterious figures in this story takes center stage, new information will change the course of the trial.

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0:00.0

Paper Ghosts is a true crime podcast investigating the mysterious disappearance and brutal unsolved murder of Tammy's Wiki.

0:08.6

They just kept telling us from the beginning, she'll be back, she'll be back.

0:12.4

We had no clue where she was, they didn't know where to begin to look.

0:16.0

Tammy's story shocked the nation. The deeper I searched, the more troubling things I found.

0:22.2

The best lead, the best evidence, the best witness was blown off.

0:28.4

Listen to Paper Ghosts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get, your favorite shows.

0:38.6

She was inside that house, she could tell you what it was like.

0:41.5

I mean, she told everybody what it was like to live with the waggers.

0:46.0

I remember Jake saying that they were stressed.

0:49.2

Decisions were typically made as a group.

0:52.7

I was making plans to leave the house immediately from us right then, about two.

0:58.3

Okay.

1:04.4

This is the Pikes and Massacre Return to Pike County.

1:08.0

Season four, episode 17, The Elizabeth Journals.

1:13.3

I'm Courtney Armstrong, a television producer at KT Studios with Stephanie Leidacher and Jeff Shane.

1:18.4

As always, it's important to note that George Wagner has pleaded not guilty to all charges.

1:25.3

His father, Billy Wagner, whose trial is upcoming has also pleaded not guilty to all charges.

1:31.7

Hours of testimony by investigators and relatives have been to the dark picture of the

1:36.0

Wagner family and the contentious custody battle between Jake Wagner and Ian Arrhodon over their

1:41.2

daughter. Today, one of the most mysterious and least known figures involved in the case takes the

1:47.3

stand. Elizabeth Armer, Jake Wagner's ex-wife, who he met in Alaska. We've reached out to her before

1:54.8

but have never spoken directly with her. We've only heard from Elizabeth on the occasion she posted

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