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The Effort To Save Thousands Of Donor Kidneys | Ocean Liner Will Become An Artificial Reef

Science Friday

Science Friday and WNYC Studios

Life Sciences, Wnyc, Science, Earth Sciences, Natural Sciences, Friday

4.55.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Last year, 9,000 deceased donor kidneys were discarded due to storage and time limitations. A kidney “life support” machine could change that. Also, the SS United States will join Florida’s 4,300 artificial reefs—human-made places for fish and other marine life to live. How do these reefs work?

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0:00.0

Listener supported WNYC Studios.

0:11.9

This is Science Friday.

0:13.7

I'm Flor Lichten.

0:15.1

Today in the podcast, we're diving into artificial reefs.

0:19.0

Some of the first artificial reefs were shipwrecks, and so shipwrecks kind of gave a little clue that we might be able to put down these materials on purpose.

0:31.6

Last week, after a notable career, the SS United States, a 1950s ocean liner, took her sunset cruise.

0:40.3

Like many retirees, the ship headed south, from Philadelphia to Florida, where she'll be reinventing herself.

0:46.6

In this new chapter, the SS United States won't be a ship at all.

0:50.2

She's taking up a new vocation at the bottom of the sea.

0:53.9

The ship will be sunk and turned into an artificial reef, hopefully providing a new home for marine life.

1:01.1

So how do these artificial reefs work? Are ships good candidates for them? What are the risks?

1:07.4

Joining me now to dive into the science of artificial reefs is Scott Jackson.

1:12.1

Scott has served Northwest Florida with the University of Florida Sea Grant Extension since 2000.

1:17.6

As Bay County Extension Director and as a regional specialized agent, he focuses on artificial reefs, fisheries, and coastal resiliency.

1:25.6

Scott, welcome to Science Friday.

1:27.1

It's great to be here.

1:28.4

Thank you for having me.

1:29.8

What is an artificial reef?

1:31.4

Artificial reefs are man-made materials that we place in the ocean to create hard substrate.

1:37.2

They mimic some of the natural things that we find like a northwest Florida limestone,

1:41.6

but as you go further south, some of the coral reefs, those

1:44.3

will be some good things that we're trying to mimic. What is their purpose? The purpose is to

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