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I listen to Sarah and Beth

because I can count on them to bring multiple perspectives

to an issue or current event.

From people with actual moral virtues

who might feel comfortable being around my kids.

Sarah and Beth do such a tremendous job of listening to each other and to opinions that don't

immediately align with their own. They've done their homework. They ask good questions,

and they aren't afraid to change their minds. This is Sarah Stewart-Hollin.

This is Beth Silvers. You're listening to Pantsuit Politics today. We are joined by Rahm Emanuel, who has done everything. Ram Emanuel has been a member

of Congress. He's been the White House Chief of Staff. He's been our ambassador to Japan and the

mayor of Chicago. And we are really interested in him as a 2028 presidential contender

because he has all this experience but doesn't seem content to just rest in it. He feels

like someone who is out there listening to people. He's traveling the country, going to places

that people don't expect him to go, talking to people that he's not expected to talk to, and you can hear it in the policies he's rolling out. So we wanted to have him on to talk about

education and a whole lot more. You are not going to want to miss his outside of politics tips for

empty nesters. We find ROM refreshing. If you do too, we hope that you'll text this conversation

to someone in your life and let them know what we do here at Pantsuit Politics.

It is the best way to get normal people interested in politics, and we need more normal people participating in the American political scene.

Next up, our conversation with Rahm Emanuel.

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