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Best of the Spectator

The Edition: the great pretender

Best of the Spectator

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4.4785 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2021

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s podcast, we talk to The Spectator's editor Fraser Nelson and associate editor Douglas Murray about the challenges facing a freshly re-elected SNP. What next for Nicola Sturgeon - full steam ahead for IndyRef2? Or have neither Scotland or Number 10 the bottle for an all-out battle for independence? [01:02]

‘When you look at the practicalities, the case for independence really does fall. Nicola Sturgeon is selling it in the abstract: “Do you feel Scottish”?’ - Fraser Nelson

Meanwhile in matters of social etiquette, the new post-pandemic era looms, complete with new modes of social interactions and conversational topics. In this week’s magazine, Rachel Johnson lays down the new laws of conversational topics - sex, art and travel is fine; kids, vaccines and masks are most definitely not. She joins us now, along with Lucy Hume, from that venerable arbiter of taste and decorum, Debrett’s, for some ideas for the upcoming social summer. [12:25]

'I sometimes got emails from people, during lockdown, saying, I’m on my way to my second house, can you confirm this is legal or not, as if I was the ultimate arbiter of the crazy compliance and Covid restrictions!' - Rachel Johnson

Finally, as the government announces its plans to introduce new asset thresholds for households seeking healthcare in old age, Leo McKinstry writes in The Spectator this week of his irritation with middle-class homeowners scandalised at the prospect of selling their homes to finance healthcare in their old age. Should this be a cost collectively borne by the taxpayer or should those with ample assets simply bear the brunt of the cost? Will Heaven, Director of Policy and Communications at the Policy Exchange think tank, joins us to argue the point. [23:00]

'I think if you were to tell most 40-year olds that you’re going to pay one penny extra on income tax over the course of your career but you’re never going to have to worry about high social care costs and parents and grandparents, they’d probably go for it' - Will Heaven.

Presented by Lara Prendergast

Produced by Arsalan Mohammad and Sam Russell

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:24.6

Hello and welcome to the edition podcast from The Spectator. I'm Lara Prendergast.

0:30.7

Every week we take a look at some of the most intriguing and important stories from the new

0:35.8

issue of the magazine with the writers behind them.

0:39.0

This week, Will Nicola Sturgeon really risk all on calling for a second Scottish independence referendum?

0:45.1

Plus, can we learn to be interesting again post-pandemic?

0:48.4

And finally, our homeowners write to be outraged at the suggestion they should sell their houses to pay for

0:54.3

healthcare in old age.

0:58.5

So, first up this week, what happens now for the SMP after their victory in last week's elections?

1:05.0

Will Nicola Sturgeon hedge her bets or stridently call for a new referendum and is number

1:10.3

10 bothered.

1:11.3

I'm joined now by our editor Fraser Nelson, who says that Nicholas Sturgeon is bluffing

1:15.1

about independence in his cover story this week.

1:17.6

We're also joined by a columnist Douglas Murray, who writes about the relationship between

1:21.4

Brexit and Scottish independence in his column this week.

1:25.1

Fraser, in your cover story this week, you write that following the Scottish

1:28.2

elections last week, the Great Sturgeon Bluff, as you put it, has begun. What do you mean by that?

1:34.4

But she is presenting herself to the public and the world on a false premise. That premise, first of all,

1:40.7

is that Scotland is itching to leave the Union. Secondly, that the will of a Scottish

1:45.4

people, as she likes to refer to it, is that they want a referendum. They were angry that there

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