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The Edition: Royal treatment, neurodiverse history & is everyone on Ozempic?

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🗓️ 13 September 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

First: a look ahead to President Trump’s state visit next week


Transatlantic tensions are growing as the row over Peter Mandelson’s role provides an ominous overture to Donald Trump’s state visit next week. Political editor Tim Shipman has the inside scoop on how No. 10 is preparing. Keir Starmer’s aides are braced for turbulence. ‘The one thing about Trump which is entirely predictable is his unpredictability,’ one ventures. And government figures fear he may go off message on broadcast – he is scheduled to be interviewed by GB News.


It is rare for leaders to receive a second visit, especially those in their second term. But, as Tim says, ‘Britishness is fashionable in Washington’ and no-one likes ‘royal treatment’ more than Trump. So, can Starmer take advantage of the President’s ‘love of the deal’? Tim joins the podcast to discuss.


Next: why are historical figures being labelled neurodiverse?


A new biography of Margaret Thatcher has provoked much discussion by claiming that Britain’s former Prime Minister was autistic. The proof for such a claim rests on the Iron Lady’s (supposed) lack of a sense of humour, a lack of feeling embarrassed and a tendency to see the world in black and white. 


But is there a danger in reappraising historical and political figures, particularly when it comes to personal traits? Historians – and frequent Spectator contributors – Robert Tombs and John Keiger joined the podcast to give their verdict.


And finally: is everyone on Ozempic?


One of the Spectator’s writers, under the pseudonym Henrietta Harding, headed out on what she terms ‘Ozempic safari’ – spotting the ‘Mounjaro Mummies’ as they drop off their children at school. ‘We know what to look for’, she says, ‘sunken faces, slightly wasted arms and, of course, envy-inducing weight loss’.


But the school gates aren’t the only place Ozempic seems to have taken hold. Westminster is awash with politicians who have suspiciously slimmer fitting suits – but why? Associate editor Toby Young and deputy political editor James Heale join the podcast to make sense of the trend for trim.


Plus: As President Xi re-emerges, Francis Pike asks who’s really in charge in China?


Hosted by William Moore and Lara Prendergast.


Produced by Patrick Gibbons and Oscar Edmondson.


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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0:00.0

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0:38.2

Hello and welcome to the edition podcast from The Spectator, where each week we shed a little light on the thought process behind putting the world's oldest weekly magazine to bed. I'm Lara Prendergars, the Spectator's Executive Editor.

0:44.7

And I'm William Moore, the Spectator's Features Editor. On this week's podcast, what does Trump

0:49.8

want from his state visits to Britain? Why are historical figures being labelled neurodiverse?

0:55.6

And is there anyone not on a Zen peck?

1:07.6

First up, in his cover piece for this week's magazine, Tim Shipman looks ahead to Donald Trump's

1:13.2

state visit next week. The American president is heading to London for what is an unprecedented

1:18.6

second state visit. So what can we expect from it? And can Kirstama take advantage of the

1:24.2

president's genuine love of Britain as well as his love of the deal.

1:28.9

Tim joined the podcast to discuss more. I started by asking him why Trump has been accorded

1:34.3

the honour of a second state visit. Well, because the British government is desperate to

1:39.7

butter up Donald Trump and has been, from the second he got re-elected, You know, he's completely recasting, you know, the whole of Western politics and the whole

1:49.0

of global affairs.

1:50.0

And they knew that that was likely to have on because during the campaign, Trump was very

1:54.5

forward about how he was planning to shake things up.

1:57.7

And unlike a lot of politicians and somewhat to the regret of some of the

2:01.5

Western leaders he's continued you know he's continued to do exactly that since he got in so

2:07.0

one of Starmer's successes I think has been to get alongside Trump early to read the roons and to

2:14.5

generally get him pointing in the direction the British government would like.

2:18.9

And so the trip, the state visit is very much about not only trying to get Donald Trump feeling warm about Britain,

2:28.2

but accepting some of the kind of points of view that the British government has on certain issues,

2:32.8

but also to take

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