Hello and welcome to the edition podcast from The Spectator, where each week we look at three of the pieces from the magazine with the writers behind them.

I'm Lara Prendergast, the Spectator's executive editor. And I'm Gus Carter, the online comment editor.

In this week's issue, Nick Farrell interviews Italy's next likely leader, Georgia Maloney. I speak to him

about whether she's the most dangerous woman in Europe. Plus, does the online safety bill promote an

intrusive culture of self-censorship.

Finally, as we head off on our summer holidays, why has hand luggage become such a hassle?

First up, for the cover piece this week, Nicholas Farrell met Georgia Maloney.

He joins me now alongside Kiara Albanese, a political correspondent of Bloomberg.

Nick, can you tell us who is Georgia Maloney and what is she offering to Italian voters?

Who is? That's a big question. She's 45. She's an unmarried mother of a five-year-old daughter. She was born in a working class area of Rome.

She has a strong Roman accent.

She is possibly the Italian equivalent of a cockney.

So she's pretty, or perhaps an Essex girl.

She's been a professional politician for many years from a very young age, but she didn't, she excelled at school, but did not have enough money to go to university because her mother was a single parent who had been abandoned by her father, well, George's father, when Georgia and her slightly older sister were babies,

and to make ends meet, a mile of things wrote Mills and Boone-style bodice rippers.

Georgia herself, having not gone to university, did all sorts of jobs such as market stallholder, nightclub, barista, nanny and babysitter.

She decided to go into politics, she says, in, I think it was 92,

when the mafia killed the two top anti-mafia judges, prosecuting judges in Sicily,

which was effectively a declaration of war on the Italian state by the mafia,

she was desperate to do something.

She writes in her recent best-selling autobiography,

and she joined the neo-fascist

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