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The Edition: Plan Z

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🗓️ 21 October 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode: Who is Eric Zemmour – can he take on President Macron? 
In our cover story this week, Freddy Gray looks at the rise of Eric Zemmour, the TV presenter who looks set to stir up French politics ahead of next year’s election. Freddy is joined on the podcast by Sophie Pedder, Paris bureau chief for The Economist and a biographer of French President Emmanuel Macron to discuss. (00:46)
 
  
Also this week: Is the Prevent anti-radicalisation programme failing?
Douglas Murray says in this week’s issue that Prevent is failing to tackle Islamic extremism in the UK. He talks about the changes Prevent needs to make along with William Baldet, a Prevent Coordinator. (11:46)
 
  
And finally: what’s it like to dine naked?
Last week Cosmo Landesman went to a dinner party with a twist. All the guests were naked. Cosmo gives some nude dining tips along with Olivia Potts, our cookery columnist. (26:19)

 Hosted by Lara Prendergast

 Produced by Sam Holmes

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0:00.0

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0:20.5

Hello and welcome to the edition podcast from The Spectator.

0:24.7

Every week we take a look at some of the most important and intriguing stories from the issue with the writers behind them.

0:30.7

I'm Lara Prendergars, the Spectator's executive editor.

0:34.1

This week, who is Eric Zamore and can he take on President Macron?

0:39.0

Plus, is the prevent anti-radicalisation programme failing?

0:43.2

And finally, what's it like to die naked?

0:46.8

First up, in our cover story this week, Freddie Gray looks at the rise of Eric Zamor,

0:51.7

the TV personality who looks set to stir up French politics ahead of

0:55.0

next year's election. I'm joined now by Freddie and Sophie Pedder, who's the economist Paris Bureau

1:00.4

Chief and a biographer of Emmanuel Macron. Sophie, you're joining us from Paris. For listeners who

1:06.7

might not have heard of Eric Zamor, could you start by explaining who he is and where he's come from?

1:13.1

Well, he's a well-known television personality, really. He's seen as a journalist, primarily

1:18.2

in an author. He's written a number of books over the years. He's very well-known in France,

1:22.2

but he's also seen as a provocateur. I mean, he occupies a kind of that space on the, in the media landscape where he's

1:28.7

always the one who says the most provocative thing. And when you watch him on a TV talk shows,

1:33.8

when you see him taking part in debates, that is this is the brand he's been building. So I think,

1:40.5

you know, no one up until now has really seen him as a politician at all. And I don't think

1:44.9

even today he's quite seen in that, in that way. But he certainly has a brand. And it is a brand that

1:54.0

situates him, I would say, politically, you know, in some ways to the even further right than

2:00.3

Marine Le Pen.

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