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The edge of the ice

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Thwaites Glacier in Antarctica is massive, bigger than the state of Florida. If it collapses, it could reshape every coast on this planet during this century. That’s why it’s sometimes known as “the Doomsday Glacier.” And yet, until recently, we knew very little about it. Because Thwaites is extremely remote, reachable only by crossing the wildest ocean on the planet, scientists had never observed its calving edge firsthand.  In 2019, a ground-breaking international mission set out to change that, and writer Elizabeth Rush was on board to document the voyage.  We caught up with her to learn about life on an Antarctic icebreaker, how she grappled with classic Antarctic narratives about exploration (and domination), and how she summons hope even after coming face-to-face with Thwaites.      Featuring Elizabeth Rush.   SUPPORT Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member.  Subscribe to our (free) newsletter. Follow Outside/In on Instagram or Twitter, or join our private discussion group on Facebook.   LINKS Our 2022 episode featuring Elizabeth Rush about community responses to sea level rise in Staten Island and Louisiana. If you’re interested in reading more about the journey to Thwaites, check out Elizabeth’s book, “The Quickening: Creation and Community at the Ends of the Earth”. A paper published in Nature with some of the findings from this voyage, showing that Thwaites has historically retreated two to three times faster than we’ve ever observed. Here’s the one detailing findings about Thwaites’ past extent, extrapolated from their study of ancient penguin bones, and another sharing observations about water currents beneath its ice shelf. We also recommend “Encounters at the End of the World,” Werner Herzog’s (2007) documentary about science and community in Antarctica.   CREDITS Outside/In host: Nate Hegyi Reported, produced, and mixed by Justine Paradis  Edited by Taylor Quimby Our team also includes Felix Poon.  NHPR’s Director of Podcasts is Rebecca Lavoie Music by Blue Dot Sessions, Nctrnm, Sometimes Why, FLYIN, Silver Maple, Chris Zabriskie, Ooyy, and the Weddell seals of Antarctica. Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Elizabeth Rush couldn't sleep.

0:04.0

It was really early in the morning and I felt like a kid on Christmas who just kept waking up and is like,

0:11.0

is it Christmas yet?

0:12.0

No, it wasn't Christmas. It was February. kept waking up and is like, is it Christmas yet?

0:12.7

No, it wasn't Christmas.

0:14.5

It was February 2019 and Elizabeth was aboard

0:17.7

a special ship called an icebreaker

0:19.9

at the western edge of Antarctica. Sometime between four or five in the morning I woke up.

0:25.0

You know, there's not really night in Antarctica at this time of year,

0:30.0

but it's a little bit darker this time of day.

0:33.2

a day.

0:35.2

After a month at sea, she was about to witness something nobody had ever seen up close.

0:42.4

The leading edge of an absolutely enormous wall of ice. Thwaite's

0:47.4

Glacier. The only thing that I have is a visual reference point is that it sort of looks like the wall in Game of Thrones.

0:57.0

So, you know, this wall of ice that's probably two times higher than the ship. The ship's like six stories high and I was

1:07.8

really in awe of it. Folks who'd spent more time along ice shelves than I had noticed things that I wouldn't have noticed.

1:17.5

They said like, it looks mangled or gnarly.

1:20.5

It looks sick.

1:30.0

this is outside in I'm Nate Hedgy and I'm Justin and I'm Justin Paradise and today we're sharing a behind the scenes look at an international expedition to an

1:35.7

unexplored part of this world. She told me it's going to be easier for us to get

1:42.2

help to folks on the space station than it is for us to get help to you while you're at the weights.

1:48.0

And we'll get to know a glacier which could reshape every coast on this planet.

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