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A second Donald Trump presidency is only a couple of months away, which means that it is time to reckon with one of his major economic

policies, immigration reform. During the campaign, comments about migrants eating dogs

probably got more attention than the details of his proposals, or evidence on their effects.

In this episode, we are going to rectify that by asking what a Trump presidency means for immigration.

This is the economics show with Simea Caines. I'm joined today by Michael Clemens of George Mason University,

an expert on the economics of migration and a scholar of its history.

Michael, hello.

Hello, how are you?

Oh, you know, fine.

How are you?

It's a moment of historic change in the United States,

and we're going to talk about some of that.

We are indeed. Okay, so we are going to start off with a silly, arbitrary question.

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