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The Indicator from Planet Money

The echo of the bison (Classic)

The Indicator from Planet Money

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4.79.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2023

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

*This episode originally aired on August 21st, 2023*

For over 10,000 years, many peoples in what's now known as North America relied on bison. Thirty million of these creatures stretched from modern Canada all the way down to Mexico.

But in the late 1800s hide-hunters and the U.S. military annihilated the bison, bringing them to the brink of extinction. And that had consequences for the people who relied on the bison. Consequences that we still see today.

Today, we hear from an economist who revealed the shocking numbers telling this story, and one member of the Blackfeet Nation who is trying to bring back the bison.

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0:00.0

Hey Decatedayoriness, Darren Woods here.

0:02.6

We're taking this week to highlight some of our favorite episodes of the year that deserve

0:06.9

another listen.

0:08.4

Today's episode is about how the devastation to Bison in the 1800s has consequences for indigenous communities all the way up to today.

0:16.9

Here it is.

0:18.9

NPR. Right at the top of Montana is a stretch of land bigger than Delaware. It's the best.

0:30.0

Right at the top of Montana is a stretch of land bigger than Delaware. It's the Blackfeet

0:35.4

reservation and it's bordered by the Rocky Mountains shooting up on one side

0:39.8

and wide open plains on the other. And it's there that Irvine Carlson lived on his grandparents' cattle ranch in the 1950s and 60s.

0:48.0

I grew up ranching.

0:50.0

It taught me to work hard, to be able to work hard and for a living and work ethics.

0:56.0

It was a good way of growing up.

0:58.0

But across the reservation, across Blackfeet Nation, work was scarce.

1:03.4

I didn't see a whole lot of jobs.

1:05.0

There was a lot of unemployment here,

1:06.8

not a lot of opportunity for all of our people here.

1:10.1

And new evidence has found that the persistently high unemployment in Blackfeet Nation is particularly severe among indigenous nations that once relied on one animal.

1:22.0

This is the indicator from Planet Money, I'm Darien Woods.

1:25.8

Today on the show, the devastating story the numbers tell us about the people

1:30.6

once reliant on Bison.

1:38.0

Don Fair is an economist at University of Victoria in Canada. And a few years ago, Don was working with a couple of other economists on a research project that involved trying to estimate how well off indigenous North Americans were in the 19th century.

1:50.0

But economic then. We knew about this data that was collected in a very ambitious initiative by Franz Boas, who's a famous physical anthropologist on the biological like height of about 15,000 Native Americans across North America.

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