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Thinking LSAT

The Early Application Advantage (Ep. 530)

Thinking LSAT

Nathan Fox and Ben Olson

Education

4.6886 Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Nathan and Ben highlight a notable increase in law school applications per the latest LSAC reports. These numbers have nervous students rushing to apply this cycle, even though they don't have a strong LSAT score. Nathan and Ben explain that November is already late. Instead, they encourage applicants to wait and apply next year to take advantage of the best scholarship opportunities. 

Also in this episode:

    • Gratitude from a listener who embraced the Demon mindset
    • A message from Nebraska Law about student loans
    • A Demon student questions whether to keep going after low scores
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    LSAC Volume Summary Report

    ⁠Study with our Free Plan⁠

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    Check out all of our “What’s the Deal With” Segments.

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    0:30 - LSAC Volume Summary Report

    10:10 - Following the Demon Philosophy

    17:13 - When to Submit Applications

    29:56 - Email from a Law School on Loan Limits

    44:46 - Low LSAT Scores

    51:27 - What’s the Deal with the University of Arizona

    1:05:00 - Personal Statement Gong Show

    1:12:28 - Word of the Week - impervious

    Transcript

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    0:00.0

    I'm just still shocked at people thinking that they have to force their applications in this cycle.

    0:06.9

    And they're like, well, because it might get even worse next year.

    0:09.4

    Yeah, yeah.

    0:10.2

    That's like the fire is raging, but I have to jump into it right now because the fire might get worse.

    0:26.6

    Hello and welcome to episode 530 of the Thinking ElSat podcast.

    0:27.6

    I'm Nathan Fox.

    0:28.7

    With me is Ben Olson.

    0:33.0

    We are the co-founders of ElSatDemon.com and the ElSat Demon Daily podcast.

    0:34.9

    First item on the agenda, Ben. We touched on this real briefly last week, but LSAC has released their volume summary report.

    0:42.6

    Elsac, by the way, that's the Law School Admission Council.

    0:45.9

    It's a member organization made up of basically all the law schools.

    0:50.2

    And they have released their volume summary report comparing applicants and applications.

    0:55.7

    This was on, oh, maybe it's been updated because this is on October 18th.

    1:02.5

    And they're comparing this year to last year at the same time.

    1:07.7

    Like short, quick headline, applicants are up 31% from last year, which is up 65% compared to two years ago.

    1:18.6

    Yeah.

    1:19.1

    Applications are up 26% from last year, 73% from two years ago.

    1:26.9

    Interesting note here, Ben, last year at this time, LSEC says,

    1:32.3

    we had 15 percent of the final applicant count and 11 percent of the final application

    1:39.0

    count. So it's still early days in terms of when most people actually apply to law school.

    1:48.1

    Yeah.

    1:48.7

    The vast majority.

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