Remember when it used to just be the conspiracy theory that it was about the oil? And now he's like, uh, it's about the oil? Trump has pardoned now more narco-traffickers than any president in U.S. history.

Hello and welcome to an emergency opening arguments. This is preempted what I had planned, but I think it's probably probably worth it. I'm joined by not one expert here, but two as we've got. Matt and Liz, the old Gigi crew assembled. How's it going, Matt? How's it going, Liz?

Hey, hey, I'm very excited to have an excuse to get together and talk about the single most important thing that the Trump administration has done and this Trump administration.

Oh, wow.

You think this is the single most important thing that the Trump administration is done?

Globally, I think so.

I don't know.

I would say, I would honestly say defunding USAID and the total switch of moving, you know, just totally cabinet, like just totally

carving out the State Department and making the Department of War effectively our Department

of Diplomacy and to the extent we have any foreign aid. I actually think that's more consequential.

I mean, that did kill more people.

It's true. Yeah, I was going to say the report was that it was killing a lot of people.

So, well, I'm going to go with that, which it was killing a lot of people. So, well, we can quote on that.

So I'm going to go with that, which is the only thing that I am optimistic about in our conversation today is that this is like not even close to, in my view, one of the worst things the Trump administration has done in the last year. Oh, wow. Maybe we'll get a little bit of a panel style debate. Speaking of, I never do this, but because this was such a crazy thing, I decided to watch some media. And I watched the Sunday shows, which was supposed to be, the Sunday shows are supposed to be like the better echelon of, because I can't do the cable. It's just impossible. It's too stupid. I can't do it. But the Sunday shows, you know, especially like the PBS one, boy, I got to tell you, I don't know if they've changed or what, but they're also worthless. Like I used to think that was like better, but it's just worthless. And I actually worry, and the reason I bring it up is from watching those shows, and I don't know if this is because of this particular event or because of the very format and kind of incentives

of... From watching those shows, and I don't know if this is because of this particular event or because of the very format and kind of incentives of our media has just constantly doing the manufactured consent thing.

But after watching those shows, I don't even know how much people are going to give a shit about this.

Because they just put it in the format of, well, we got, uh, uh, Rubrio and we'll ask

Rubio a few times. Hey, what's the legal authority to do this? And it'll be like, oh, well, you know, we got the, we're, we got court orders and, uh, we're, we're quarantined the ships and not letting him,

oh,

really, what's the legal authority?

And then I'll try a few more times.

And they're like,

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