The Duggar Victims and What Comes Next — A Psychotherapist on Healing From a System Like This
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Tony Brueski
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🗓️ 26 March 2026
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
Jill Duggar was one of Josh Duggar's victims. She said on national television as a young adult that her parents handled it correctly. She is now publicly condemning abuse and supporting victims. What happened between those two moments — and what it took to get there — is a story that matters far beyond the Duggar family.
In Part 3 of this three-part series from Hidden Killers and True Crime Today, hosts Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke sit down with psychotherapist Shavaun Scott to discuss what recovery from a closed fundamentalist system actually takes. Scott is a thirty-year licensed clinician who specializes in trauma recovery and left a fundamentalist religious system herself.
This conversation addresses the specific people who need the most right now: the 14-year-old girl at the center of the Joseph Duggar case who carried what allegedly happened to her for nearly five years, the four young children of Joseph and Kendra Duggar whose world just collapsed around them, and the hundreds of thousands of former IBLP members watching this story become national news — people who have been saying this for years and are now waiting to see if anyone is actually listening.
This is Part 3 of 3.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Drey. |
| 0:07.8 | Jill Dugger spent years in therapy before she could talk openly about her childhood. |
| 0:14.0 | This last week, she made a statement condemning Joseph's alleged abuse and supporting the victim. |
| 0:20.3 | Jill is just one of hundreds of thousands who grew up in |
| 0:23.4 | IBLP, most of whom have never been on TV or had a public voice. This conversation is going to be |
| 0:29.5 | looking at what people need to recover from such a system and what those involved right now need |
| 0:36.1 | most. We were kind of talking about this a little bit in our last segment. |
| 0:41.3 | Jill is one who was able to see the lights, if you will, and get out. |
| 0:48.3 | Something struck her that this is off, this is wrong. |
| 0:51.8 | This is not the way I want to live. |
| 0:53.7 | This is not the way I want to raise, this is not the way I want to raise |
| 0:55.1 | my family or continue existing in the world. And we talked about ways that people can get in there, |
| 1:03.5 | can inspire the existing ones to see the light and to see that there's a world outside of this cult-like system that they're growing up in. |
| 1:15.2 | When you have something like this, a family that is so dug in, they're the duggers, is it in a situation like this? |
| 1:25.9 | And to anybody else out there who may be in a similar type |
| 1:28.9 | situation, who has a family member, that's still stuck in one of these cult-like things, |
| 1:35.0 | is it incumbent upon that person to try and help get the other family members out to help |
| 1:41.7 | them see the light? Because it is such a brick wall because |
| 1:44.9 | there is not a lot of other influences or voices going in there that can help inspire these |
| 1:50.1 | people to see reality to educate them if you are one of the few people who may be able to |
| 1:55.9 | infiltrate that somewhat covertly not going in there going mom and dad are crazy, but slowly get in there |
| 2:03.2 | and show them. What sort of responsibility exists, if any, to those who have escaped it |
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