The Duggar Men Through a Forensic Lens — What a Psychotherapist Sees That the Headlines Miss
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Tony Brueski
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🗓️ 26 March 2026
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
One Duggar brother is in federal prison. Another was arrested this week on charges he allegedly admitted to — twice. Their father knew about abuse inside his own family since 2002 and has faced no legal consequences. A federal judge has already put his finding about Jim Bob's sworn testimony on the public record: not credible.
In Part 2 of this three-part series from Hidden Killers and True Crime Today, hosts Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke talk with psychotherapist Shavaun Scott about the psychology of Josh Duggar, Joseph Duggar, and Jim Bob Duggar. Scott has spent thirty years working with perpetrators of violence across forensic mental health programs, domestic violence shelters, and private practice.
What does Josh's pattern look like to a clinician? What does Joseph's alleged admission — and his apparent apology to the girl at the time it happened — tell us psychologically? What is Jim Bob doing when he chooses internal church handling over law enforcement, repeatedly, and then claims he can't remember any of it?
This conversation also covers Anna Duggar — still married to Josh with seven children while he serves his sentence — and Kendra Duggar, arrested this week on separate charges involving their own four children.
This is Part 2 of 3.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Drey. |
| 0:07.8 | Josh Dugger is in federal prison. He's been for a while. |
| 0:12.3 | Joseph Dugger was arrested just the other week on charges. |
| 0:16.4 | He reportedly admitted to twice. |
| 0:19.0 | Father Jim Bob allegedly knew about Josh's abuse of his daughter since 2002, but he |
| 0:24.8 | chose to go to church elders instead of police, allegedly. |
| 0:29.4 | Later, he testified under oath that he couldn't remember those events. |
| 0:33.6 | I don't know. |
| 0:34.3 | I don't remember. |
| 0:35.5 | A federal judge said that was not believable and said, get out of my courtroom. You know, Mr. Godley, getting kicked out of the court. |
| 0:43.8 | Shabon Scott is with us. She has 30 years of experience working with people who've committed violence in these sort of settings. This conversation looks at the psychological issues behind these actions as we |
| 0:58.2 | break it all down, weigh in with your thoughts in the comments section. Shavon, let's talk about |
| 1:04.7 | this. When you look at Josh Dugger's pattern, the other brother, the one who had the accusations, |
| 1:12.8 | who did things to his sisters, and then later was downloading CSAM material at his used car lot, |
| 1:20.6 | living a double life as a public values advocate. |
| 1:24.8 | He was out there on the Christian circuit or the IBLP circuit, trying to tout himself as |
| 1:31.5 | being this, this, you know, religious juggernaut. |
| 1:34.1 | He's this great figure. |
| 1:35.6 | One should try and strive to be, yet he's doing all of these things in the background. |
| 1:41.4 | Oh, yeah, he was also on, what what Ashley Madison as well, cheating on his wife with |
| 1:45.2 | porn stars. But this is religious ad. I mean, what the hell is going on here? And there's just so |
| 1:55.0 | many things. What's going on with him and what's going on with the family that still says, |
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