The Drones Above Ukraine

Angry Planet

Matthew Gault

War, Politics, Conflict, Government, History, News

4.3 • 882 Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

You know, we wanted to talk about European (and especially German) views of the war in Ukraine today. And we still will. What’s an IRIS-T, for example. What’s up with those Leopard tanks? But then a Russian Su-27 fighter jet crashed into an American MQ-9 Reaper above the Black Sea and the guest we planned to have on, well, she knows a lot about drones.

With us today is Ulrike Franke. Franke is a senior policy fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations. She’s an expert in all things Germany, drones, and AI. She got a PhD from Oxford and she hosts a podcast on German defense, the name of which I will absolutely butcher if I attempt to pronounce.

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0:25.0	Frankly, that seems to be the problem. Welcome to Angry Planet. Hello and I'm
0:43.0	welcome to angry planet. I'm Matthew Galt and I'm Jason Fields.
0:47.6	You know, we wanted to talk about European and especially German views of the war in Ukraine
0:52.1	today and we still will.
0:54.3	You know what for example is an IRIST what's up those leopard tanks but then a Russian
1:00.0	SU-27 fighter jet crashed into an American MQ9 Reaper above the Black Sea and the guest
1:06.0	that we plan to have on, well, she knows a lot about drones, so we would be remiss if we didn't
1:11.6	ask her about it. With us today is Oureka Frankie. I probably just
1:15.9	butchered that even though I think I did it right in the all good. She is a senior policy fellow
1:22.2	at the European Council on Foreign Relations. She is a senior policy fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations.
1:24.4	She is an expert in all things Germany, drones, and AI.
1:27.6	She's got a PhD from Oxford and she hosts a podcast on German defense,
1:31.9	the name of which I will absolutely not to try to pronounce.
1:35.7	Thank you so much today for joining us.
1:38.6	Well, thank you very much for having me.
1:40.8	All right, so first things first.
1:44.2	What happened over the Black Sea?
1:47.2	Yes, well actually today that they would, that we're recording, we got a video recording of
1:52.2	this incident. The incident being that there was a US Reaper drone,
1:56.9	MQ9 Reaper drone that was flying over the Black Sea and the US says over international waters and a Russian or actually two
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