All right, everybody. Welcome back to another edition of the Untitled Jeff Buck podcast.

I'm your host Jeff Gluck, and today it's another edition of the Driven Life series that I'm doing this year.

And that is where I talk to people in the racing industry about some motivation or successful habits that I could

use and hopefully you could use as well because I'm kind of a self-improvement type person

where I'm always trying to be better or make life better.

So there's a lot of people I feel like who have a good handle on things and I would like

to talk to them about that.

And one of those people today is

Holly Kane from the NASCAR Wire Service. Many of you are familiar with Holly, but if not,

she is someone who endured some very serious breast cancer battles and has emerged on the other side

of that. But she's always been someone who I've been struck by is really impressively positive and optimistic,

even in some really downtime.

So I just was wondering if she would be willing

to share some of her secrets to staying upbeat,

staying positive, even in the worst of times.

And obviously, not all of us are gonna to go through cancer, but we may have

some other challenge in our life, whether it's divorce or loss of a loved one or job difficulties

or whatever. And hopefully that some of the things that she's going to say can apply to that.

So that's where we're going to start this conversation. And I hope you get something out of it.

All right, everybody. I'm here with Holly Kane. And for those of you who are regular listeners

of the podcast, we did a how I got here with Holly last year. And we touched on a little bit of

inspirational messages. But I thought we could do a whole podcast based off that because you have

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