Hi everybody, it's Kate Snow. For this episode of The Drink, I caught up with musician Howard Jones.

He's known for his 80s synthesizer sound with hits like What Is Love and things can only get better.

We sat down at LaMani. It's a restaurant right on Rockefeller Plaza.

If you're new to the drink, it's always about how people get to the top of their field.

For this conversation, we had a three-step

drink, Howard's go-to, Yorkshire tea, oat milk creamer, and manuka honey. It was fantastic. We talked

about his foundation in classical music, working in a saran rap factory, for real, and how a near

fatal accident actually changed his life completely.

He also explained why he's not bothered that most people still know him as an 80s icon. Enjoy. And as

always, you can catch all of my conversations with top artists, entrepreneurs, and visionaries

at NBCNews.com slash the drink.

I'm sorry, Howard Jones got a job in a Serenrat factory.

Yeah.

Why?

It was the first job that anybody offered me, and I just needed something to have some money coming in.

So that you could do your music.

Oh, hello. A lot of great, very.

Thank you.

Oh, hello.

Thank you.

Oh, wow.

Thank you so much.

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