THE DR. WHO REFUSED TO KNEEL - MANDATES, CENSORSHIP, & CORRUPTION

Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels

Jillian Michaels

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🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, a well-regarded ENT specialist, became one of the most polarizing figures in American medicine after refusing to fall in line during COVID. When her off-label use of ivermectin went public, the backlash was immediate: her hospital suspended her, the medical board came after her, and she was thrust into a national firestorm. In this episode, she lays out the blueprint she says was used to punish dissenting physicians—how hospital systems, public-health agencies, and industry interests closed ranks to enforce a single narrative. She breaks down the conflicts of interest baked into the modern “medical-industrial complex,” and why she decided to fight rather than fold. From vaccine-injury cases to mandate battles to the unprecedented wave of medical censorship, Dr. Bowden pulls no punches. She takes aim at the NIH, FDA, major hospital systems, and the Biden administration—exposing what she sees as a system more interested in profit, control, and compliance than patient care.

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0:00.0	From the Stanford Halls to dead center of the bullseye, Dr. Mary Talley Bowden is here, and she's risked everything to speak out.
0:10.0	I mean, I see it every day. I see these people whose lives have been destroyed every day. I've never seen anything like it in my entire career.
0:16.0	There's no upside for me to come out and say all this.
0:19.0	This is her story and what she says the medical world doesn't want you to know.
0:24.5	We could be seeing this unlimited production of spike protein.
0:28.3	The other concern is that once the spike protein is made, that it can't be broken down because it has something called pseudo uridine, which is a sort of a stabilizer.
0:39.3	So it's not meant, it is to keep it from being broken down to generate more of a heartier immune response.
0:46.3	The problem is we don't have a single study showing that the body's capable of breaking down pseudo uridine.
0:52.3	Buckle up.
0:59.7	Keeping it real with Jillian Michaels.
1:04.3	So let's start here with the beginning talk.
1:06.8	So there's a direct quote from you.
1:10.7	The system is rigged against doctors and patients.
1:12.8	The patients part, now I know.
1:14.4	Profitable to keep people sick.
1:15.2	We all know it.
1:15.8	We got it.
1:19.9	Can you elaborate a little bit about the doctor's piece?
1:23.2	Is this more on the medical McCarthyism stuff that I've alluded to?
1:46.1	Yeah, I mean, medicine has changed a lot since I started. It's become much more centralized. It's very rare to find an independent doctor. And it was that independence that sort of allowed me to treat COVID patients the way I wanted. But so the vast majority of doctors are employees and they have a third party influencing how they take care of patients. I call myself third party free. So I worked in a traditional system right after residency
1:53.7	for a while. Then I started having children and I had four boys in five years and I took time off. I missed that. I missed that factoid. Wow, you deserve a badge of honor. Holy cow. It was hectic. And I wasn't even sure I was going to go back to medicine. But then once I got older and school routines and everything, I decided to go back. But when I went back, I was like,
2:17.5	I'm going to do it on my terms. I'm going to be third party free. So I don't contract with insurance
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