Well, hello there, and welcome back. My name is Stephanie Safarian, and you're listening to episode

569 of Sustainable Minimalists. This is a listener-supported show about intentional and

eco-friendly minimalist living. And on today's show, we are discussing downsizing. Downsizing, even if we

have no plans to move. I like to call it the downsizing

mindset, which of course is a fundamental shift in perspective. It prioritizes less stuff. It

prioritizes more free time. It's about consciously being in the habit of reducing the amount of stuff that we own,

whether we're moving or not, whether we're downsizing in the near future or not. And the reason,

of course, is because, you know, the longer I host this podcast, the further I travel down my

own minimalism journey, I'm learning that

minimalism's truest and most important lesson is that minimalism teaches each of us what enough is

for each of us, right? So it's different. What's enough for me is different than what's enough

for you. But minimalism is a tool that helps you determine

the amount of stuff and resources that genuinely support your desired lifestyle. And that's the

point, right? The point is freedom. Freedom from the time and money constraints that excess stuff

imposes on us. Freedom from the desire and money constraints that excess stuff imposes on us.

Freedom from the desire, the need to follow the herd, and do what the herd is doing.

That's the point right there.

Physical freedom, yes, but also mental freedom.

That's why we're discussing the downsizing mindset today, not just for when we're ready

to move, but for every day of our lives. Here to help me discuss this and so much more is Tracy

Hoth. Tracy is the host of the organized coach podcast. She has over 17 years of experience turning chaos into order. Tracy, I'm so thrilled

to have you on the show. How are you? Great. Stephanie, I'm so excited. We're going to have

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