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The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

The DoubleX Gabfest: The Broken Homes and Betty Ford Edition

The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

Slate Podcasts

Health & Fitness, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Sexuality, News

4.2897 Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2011

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

DoubleX editors discuss Betty Ford’s legacy, The Gen X divorce memoir In Spite of Everything, and the Jamie Leigh Jones rape case against KBR.


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Now, what your friends like on Facebook is in your search results on Bing. Welcome to the Double X Gab Fest for Thursday, July 14th. This is the Broken Homes and Betty Ford edition. I'm Hannah Rosen, editor of Double X. I am here in the Washington, D.C. studio with Kate Julian, also at Double X editor. Hello, Kate. Hello, Hannah. And in New York, I was going to say in D.C., we were joined by Jessica Gross, also a double X editor.

0:41.2

Hi, Jess.

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Hi, guys.

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Today, we are going to talk about three things.

0:45.1

First, the argument that Generation X is the divorce generation and why that has turned us into helicopter parents.

0:52.2

The second is Jamie Lee Jones, who claimed she was

0:54.7

raped in Iraq and has just lost her rape case in civil court and what that means about the state

0:59.8

of the rape victim today. And third, we are going to talk about Betty Ford, who is the mother

1:04.1

a confessional culture and the end of shamelessness. So the first argument about Generation X and

1:10.6

the Divorce Generation, this comes to us because

1:12.9

of a new book that's coming out called In Spite of Everything, which is a memoir by Susan Gregory

1:18.0

Thomas. And this is a memoir that essentially argues that we Generation X were destroyed by the

1:24.5

height of the divorce era. That's the time in America where there were the most divorces. There was a flowering of divorce and that has permanently traumatized us and turned us into the kind of overprotective parents that we are. And I have lots of thoughts about this. But actually, I'm going to turn it to Kate first because, as Jess and I would say, you are the only one of us who comes from a broken home. Yes, that's great. You intact homers.

1:46.0

Exactly.

1:46.3

I definitely set down to read this book with something like total trepidation as somebody

1:52.1

who's not only a child of divorce, but is married to a child of divorce, which apparently

1:57.2

makes our odds terrible.

1:59.5

If you come from a divorced family, your risk of getting

2:03.4

divorced, I think, is supposed to be 50% higher than yours or Jess's. That's right. And if you're

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