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Hello and welcome to Mom and Daider Fighting, Slate's parenting podcast for Thursday, August 18th, the Doping for Kids Edition.

I'm Alison Benedict, an editor at Slate, and the mom of Harry 7, Sam 5, and Wally 3.

Dan is off this week, but luckily we have the wonderful human and parent Jessica Winter filling in.

Hi.

Hi, I'm so happy to be here.

I'm Jessica.

I'm also an editor at Slate, and I'm the mom of Devin, who is one.

So on today's show, we're going to talk to two out of the three hosts of Slate's wonderful sports podcast, hang up and listen, about the beauty and dangers of watching the Olympics with your kids.

Then novelist Ruman Alam will join us to discuss a piece he wrote for Slate about the lack of diversity in children's books and why

that matters.

Plus, parenting triumphs and fails, a listener call about dealing with the parenting

judgments of someone you love, which seems a very universal question, but with some

specific issues and recommendations.

And for today's Slate Plus segment, we are switching things up a little bit. Instead of having a Slate staffer on to reveal their own parenting triumph or fail, we are having one of Slate's culture editors, Laura Bennett, on to talk about a mother-daughter, triumph, or fail that she is experienced as a daughter while planning her wedding with her parents. But before we get to all of that, two quick

announcements. Number one, like always, I want you to like our Facebook page, Facebook.com

slash mom and dad are fighting. But this week, I'd also love you to go there and help one of your

fellow listeners who posted on our page asking for recommendations of podcasts that are good

for the whole family. So I'll start a thread

there and give your suggestions and comments. The listener, Josh, his kids are young. I think he said

they were my kids age, seven, five, and three. But we could take them also for older kids, teenagers.

I know a couple of people who listen to this show with their kids,

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