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Explain It to Me

The Don't-Call-It-A-Muslim-Ban

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.47.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2017

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Dara Lind joins Ezra and Matt to discuss Donald Trump's latest crackdown on immigrants and refugees. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:18.0

Hello, welcome to the Weeds Vox's Policy Podcast on the Penetly Network.

0:21.0

I'm Matthew Glaciast, joined as usual by my colleague Ezra Klein,

0:24.2

and we have brought in special guest, Dar Lind, for a special episode.

0:29.8

Of the Weeds, we are here to talk about some drastic events happening in immigration policy over the weekend.

0:39.0

Donald Trump issued an executive order which immediately threw everyone into a state of chaos and confusion.

0:48.4

Maybe Dar can start us off by just recapping what did this order, what did it say?

0:54.4

Sure, so there are two major components to the order.

0:57.4

There's a lot of stuff that is going to get worked out over the next few months.

1:01.2

But immediately what the order did was it banned all refugees from arriving in the US for 120 days,

1:07.0

with some small exceptions, for example, if they're persecuted religious minorities, they're supposed to be able to come.

1:12.1

And it banned all immigrants, visa holders, refugees, etc, from seven majority Muslim countries.

1:18.7

Those are Iraq, Iran, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen.

1:23.6

And so anyone in either of those two circles upon arriving in the US was supposed to be sent back home.

1:30.1

They weren't even supposed to be able to get on planes to the US.

1:32.9

And so when, in fact, people were arriving in the US because they had been scheduled to do so,

1:38.6

it caused massive panic as they were being detained at airports,

1:41.7

being coerced in designing deportation papers, and being in many cases prevented from seeing lawyers,

1:47.0

which was both kind of a very dramatic demonstration of what the executive order was doing,

1:52.4

and also kind of just the tip of the iceberg.

1:54.6

Because of course, many people have been prevented from getting to the US at all over the next three months

1:59.8

in the case of the country bands and four months in the case of the refugee band.

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