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Next Question with Katie Couric

The DOJ Under Siege: Former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder Sounds the Alarm

Next Question with Katie Couric

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Documentary, News, Society & Culture, Entertainment News, Personal Journals

4.44.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Eric Holder, AG under Obama from 2009 - 2015, has spent most of his life inside the Department of Justice. Now, he’s watching it unravel. He joins Katie to explain how the Trump administration is hollowing out institutions, targeting critics, and eroding democratic norms. He shares what it’s like to see the agency he loves weaponized—and why he believes citizen power, media courage, and legal resistance are more important than ever.

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