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The Proof with Simon Hill

The doctor who beat cancer and now helps others do the same | Dr Dawn Mussallem

The Proof with Simon Hill

Simon Hill

Nutrition, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement, Education

4.9 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2025

⏱️ 178 minutes

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Summary

Dr Dawn Mussallem’s life has defied all odds. After surviving stage 4 cancer, severe heart failure, and a heart transplant, she ran a marathon just one year later. In this conversation, I sit down with Dawn as she shares what she’s learned about resilience, faith, and the science of healing. We explore the mindset behind recovery, how food and lifestyle can prevent disease, and the lessons from decades of cancer research and clinical care. It’s a deeply human discussion on what it means to live with intention, vitality, and compassion. What We Cover Mindset, purpose, and finding meaning in adversity Plant-based diets for cancer prevention and metabolic health Fasting, sleep, and stress management Supplements, Omega-3s, and key nutrients to focus on Myths about seed oils, soy, and grains GLP-1 medications, muscle preservation, and weight management Why connection, joy, and movement are central to longevity A testament to the strength of the human spirit—and a guide to living better, not just longer. Connect with Dr Dawn Mussallem on Instagram or LinkedIn to follow her work in lifestyle medicine, cancer recovery, and longevity research. This episode is brought to you by: 38TERA Consider 38TERA's DMN prebiotic supplement a daily multivitamin for your gut. Formulated by yours truly and gastroenterologist Dr Will Bulsiewicz. Use code THEPROOF for a discount at checkout. Function Health Take charge of your health with advanced blood testing and personalised insights. Function Health provides a practical solution to track key health markers such as cholesterol, blood sugar, and more. For the first 1,000 listeners, new members get a $100 credit when signing up. Head to functionhealth.com/simonhill to claim your credit. Only available to those living in the United States. Momentous My go-to supplement brand for protein and creatine is Momentous. Use code LIVINGPROOF for up to 35% off your first order at livemomentous.com. AirBnB Right in the heart of the city, I’ve been hosting a hands-on Airbnb Experience at Little City Farm that’s all about plant diversity, gut health, and delicious food. For more information, or to find other experiences on your next trip, check out airbnb.com/experiences. Pique Tea Pique's Nandaka provides sustainable, all-day energy and makes you feel like you’re doing something good for your body! Try Pique and get 20% off plus a FREE starter kit when you shop exclusively at Piquelife.com/simon. Eight Sleep Upgrade your sleep with the Pod 5 Ultra by Eight Sleep. Clinically validated to deliver up to 1 extra hour of quality sleep per night through temperature control and biometric tracking. Use code THEPROOF for $350 off at eightsleep.com/theproof. Try it risk-free for 30 days, with worldwide shipping.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Few stories are as inspiring or illuminating as that of Dr. Dorn Mussel.

0:07.0

Dawn is not only a physician at the Mayo Clinic specializing in breast cancer and integrative medicine,

0:13.0

she's also a long-term cancer survivor, who was once told she had just months to live.

0:19.0

In this episode, we follow her extraordinary journey from facing a cancer diagnosis and a near-death

0:25.2

experience to becoming a marathon running physician dedicated to helping others reclaim their

0:30.7

health.

0:31.8

Together we explore her evidence-based approach to lifestyle and cancer, what she's learned

0:36.2

from her own recovery, and how she

0:38.4

helps patients integrate medicine, nutrition, movement and mindset to live fully, even in the

0:44.9

face of uncertainty.

0:46.4

It's a conversation about science, hope, and a human capacity to heal, and a reminder that

0:53.6

no matter how hard life gets, there's always a way capacity to heal. And a reminder that no matter how hard life gets,

0:55.5

there's always a way to find peace in the present moment.

1:02.5

I recently ran my full labs through function health,

1:06.5

and I have to say the results were eye-opening.

1:09.4

Turns out my APOB was higher than ideal,

1:12.6

probably thanks to a little too much coconut yogurt.

1:16.1

I also found out I was slightly low in copper,

1:18.9

something that I would have never suspected without testing.

1:22.6

On the flip side, my biological age

1:25.1

came back 13.3 years younger than my actual age, a calculation based on the work of aging researcher, Dr. Morgan Levine.

1:34.3

So all in all, I've got a few tweaks to make to optimize my lipids and nutrient status, but overall, my blood work says I'm doing pretty well.

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