All right, welcome back to another stream, live stream of Just Back.

At least I thought they were. They were both kind of geared towards obviously the

Franks. I don't know much. They really had to do with the Franks. I think the

second filing, which we're going to discuss, really had a lot to do with it. But

before we get into all that, I'm super excited to introduce our very special

guest. I'm a little intimidated to have two brilliant women kind of like

double teaming me. But Barbara McDonald, who is an amazingly brilliant woman,

she's a senior writer for Core TV. She is obviously the co-host of Down the

Hill. And she's just amazing. And I'm really, really excited to have her on

here. And we have a couple of like lawyers for everything up. So there's certain

things we're not going to talk about with Barbara. So if you ask about it in the

chat and we don't bring it up, that's why. All right. So without further ado,

let's bring Barbara out to the stage.

Hello. Nice to be here. Thank you for inviting me. And Alison, it's nice to meet you

finally. Missed you at Crime Constellate. Oh, yes. Yeah. That was like she's

going to be at Nashville. So I told her there's a way she's gone. So yeah,

in Barbara, I'm a huge fan of your work. You're brilliant. Like before I even

knew you personally, I had long go listen down the hill. Such great work. And you

had introduced me to Dan, who's another Chicago. I didn't do the podcast alone.

Dan and Drew are my brilliant co-host producers, friends, and brilliant men

in their own right. They are in Dan,

fellow Chicago and so him and I once you made the intro headed off right

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