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The Docket Ep 1101: The search for Nancy Guthrie

Defense Diaries

Defense Diaries

True Crime

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Bob is joined by retired NYPD Sargent Joe Giacalone to discuss the details of the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

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0:00.0

The crime scene was released too early.

0:05.7

The search plane was grounded over a personal grudge.

0:10.8

The doorball camera footage is locked behind a paywall.

0:15.6

In the meantime, an 84-year-old woman is still missing.

0:20.8

We're going to get into it with my friend,

0:23.1

the one and only Sarge, Joe Jackalone.

0:25.6

Welcome to Defense Diaries.

1:10.3

I'm your host, Bob Mata, and tonight we are going to be dealing with the just tragic, tragic case, disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of NBC today host Savannah Guthrie, nine days missing at this point.

1:20.6

And in 26 minutes, the deadline on the alleged ransom is due.

1:26.6

So we'll be keeping an eye on that, see if anything comes across the ticker. It's a crazy case. But like I said, there's

1:30.7

blood on the porch, no suspects at this point named, a $6 million ransom deadline that expires

1:37.3

imminently, and a sheriff who admits his department made critical mistakes. We're going to break it all

1:42.6

down. And I could think of nobody

1:46.1

better than my brother from another mother. Joe Jackalone, there he is. So handsome. Look at him.

1:55.6

Are we super teeny, Joe? I can't tell. Oh, yeah, we're normal size. All right, good. Yeah, like I did a live on Friday, Joe, and I forgot

2:05.7

to bring myself on camera because I was on the road. So I had taken myself off for a graphic,

2:11.4

and I just had the graphics up. It was like an old-fashioned podcast where you just heard

2:17.4

my voice.

2:19.0

Joe Jacqueline, former NYPD detective, extraordinary.

2:24.1

He is an adjunct professor at John Jay Criminal.

2:29.5

What's the full name of the college?

2:31.0

John Jay College of Criminal Justice.

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