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The Docket Ep. 1042: Indiana v. Richard Allen pt. 42

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🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 122 minutes

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Bob and Ali are joined by Michael Ausbrook and Andrea Burkhardt to discuss, in a debate format, the appellate and appellee briefs filed in this case. pt. 1 of 2

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0:00.0

Richard Allen was convicted of killing Abigail Williams and Liberty German.

0:07.7

He was sentenced to 130 years in prison.

0:11.3

Now, the appellant's brief has been filed as well as the appellee's brief.

0:16.2

We're going to go through the whole process of debating it tonight for you with three of the smartest lawyers.

0:24.5

I know it's bound to be a good one.

0:48.2

I'm your host.

0:49.1

And as always, I am joined by my beautiful and brilliant co-host.

0:53.4

Allie, what's up, girl?

0:54.5

Hey, babe. Hey, all.

0:56.1

Hey, good job. Good job. Hi, Andrea.

0:59.1

Hey, girl.

1:00.2

And we are joined by another beautiful and brilliant attorney.

1:04.7

Andrea Burkart, thank you so much, Andrea, for being with us. We really appreciate it.

1:08.9

Good to be back.

1:10.4

Yeah, I'm really excited about this. I kind of came up with the concept yesterday and I was

1:15.9

tinkering with it because I set this live and we're waiting for us, Brooke. He told he warned

1:21.0

me ahead of time. He was going to be a 615 start time. But before we get into the rules of

1:26.0

engagement, the reason that I wanted to do this,

1:29.3

and I want to hear from both of you guys as well, my feeling on it was, look, we've got two very

1:36.3

divided sides here. We've got two briefs that need to be addressed. We're obviously, I think it's

1:42.7

safe to say all three of us believe that Richard Allen is factually

1:45.9

innocent. So I'm biased in that sense and I'm not going to hide that fact. But I think it's equally

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