Hello friends. I'm Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National

Constitution Center and welcome to We The People, a weekly show of

constitutional debate. The National Constitution Center is a

nonpartisan nonprofit chartered by Congress to increase awareness and

understanding of the Constitution among the American people.

On May 2nd, Politico published a leaked draft of Justice Samuel Alito's opinion in Dobbs v Jackson,

women's Health Organization.

Last fall, we convened two of America's leading scholars

of the Constitution and reproductive choice

for a meaningful discussion about Dobbs.

And it's an honor to reconvene them

to discuss Justice Alito's draft opinion and its consequences for the future of the Supreme Court.

Carter Sneeb is professor of law and director of the Danicola Center for Ethics and Culture at the University of Notre Dame Law School.

Carter, it is an honor to have you back.

Great to be with you, thanks.

And Mary Zeppelin is a professor at UC Davis

and author of Abortion and the Law in America a legal history rovy way to the present.

Mary, it's an honor to have you back as well.

Thanks for having me.

Carter, what was your reaction to the constitutional reasoning of Justice Alito's draft opinion?

Yeah, so I mean I was distraught by the fact of the leak but as to the merits of the the draft opinion

I think it wasn't all that surprising to be honest I think when last we met

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