Joining me today is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a self-described secular conservative

and the author of the Diversity, Delusion, Heather McDonald.

Finally, welcome to the Rubin Report.

I'm so grateful to be here.

Thank you so much, Dave.

I don't know how this hasn't happened already.

How did we not?

You're on the road all the time.

You're a hard man to connect with.

We've been on the road together.

We did Berkeley together and we survived.

We were totally attentive and polite crowd.

It's kind of a disappointment, actually.

It was.

We had dinner before and we were like, oh, you know, it'll be fine if we get some

protest.

Because there's a nice amount of protesters where it can be enjoyable.

Then there's like the circus amount where it's not fun anymore.

But we were kind of like, oh, we'll get some, and we got a few.

But nothing.

Nothing much.

And of course, they're so stupid.

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