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Today I want to talk about the deep divisions, rending, dividing the country, and ask whether we can ever be one nation again.

Danielle D'Souza-Gill is going to join me. We're going to talk about the landmark DOBS decision, overturning Rovers' Wade.

I'm going to explore a strange new report in Georgia that might help explain why the Republican Secretary of State Brad Rathansberger is moving so slowly with his investigation into ballot trafficking.

And I'm going to do my introduction to the Iliad as part of a study of Homer's two great epics, the Iliad and the Odyssey. This is the Dineshtras' Usa Show.

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I talk frequently in Debbie and I do also on the podcast about the divide between Red America, Blue America. But is this divide getting worse?

Are we in fact approaching what could be called a great divergence in which two parts of the country really pull almost irreconcilably apart?

I say irreconcilably because you can only have a common ground when you agree about your goals, but you disagree about means.

If you agree that America should be prosperous, you can argue about how to get there. If you agree on protecting life, you can argue about what's the best way to do that.

The problem is when the two sides want to go in different directions. They disagree about ends. Now, this certainly occurred in the time leading up to the Civil War, in which the essentially Wig and then Republican North began to diverge from the pro-slavery democratic south.

And disagree fundamentally. At the time of the founding, there was a kind of virtually universal agreement that slavery was a bad thing. Even if it should be temporarily tolerated, it should not be allowed to grow or to expand.

The slave trade should not be allowed to proliferate. But what happened in the early 19th century was you got two sides, one of which basically said slavery is bad and should be restricted, the other which said slavery is good and should be expanded.

And that was the cleavage that produced the ultimately the horrific civil war.

Now, interestingly today you may say our situation isn't that, we don't have a single issue like slavery. But in some ways it's even worse because we disagree on so many things.

The Americans of the 19th century agreed on most things. They agreed about hard work and industry and free markets. Even the South with this big feudal or semi-futal institution of slavery was part of a global free market.

They were selling cotton and the open market selling it to England. They were part of global, you may say, free trade.

And so here's an interesting article written from the left by Michael Pajhorzzer or at least referring to an analysis by Michael Pajhorzzer.

And what he says is that America has had these divisions that are sort of deeply embedded in the country for a long time. But he argues that there was a temporary truce, a kind of American coming together from the 1930s to the 1980s, a kind of half century in which these differences became moderated.

He doesn't really explain why he thinks that that was the case. He seems to suggest maybe it's because of the welfare state. I actually don't think that's the main cause.

In my view, if this is right, if there was a temporary moderation, it was really due to the sort of two massive events of the depression and World War II.

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