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Welcome to the curse of America's next Top Model. I'm Bridget Armstrong.

The A&TM Reckoning continues. There's a new docu-series out today. It's called Dirty, Rotten Scandals.

And there's a two-part series all about A&TM. The first episode premieres tonight, March 11th, on E at 9 p.m. ET,

and our production company Glass Entertainment Group worked on the docuseries.

I've seen it.

And y'all, it's deep.

They talk to a lot of the models, and they're not letting Tyra off the hook.

It's really an unflinching look at A&TM and its aftermath on

them and on us, the audience. And so I'm joined today by Lauren Saf, she was the executive producer

of Dirty Rotten Scandals. Hey, Lauren, thanks to joining me. Hello, thank you so much for having me.

So I just want to start off. You know, A&M went off however many years ago,

premiered over 20 years ago. What made you want to re-examine this show now? Well, first of all,

20 years ago when America's Next Top Model was on, it was my favorite show. I loved it. I

watched it all the time. I was in college. It was appointment viewing. My friends and I would

all gather together and watch it and, you know, laugh at Tyra and the ridiculous girls and, you know,

be one of be judges in, you know, our dorm rooms while we like gorged on Chinese food and

raspberry vodka being like, oh my God, like, look at her.

She'll never be America's next top model.

So, you know, I had a lot of nostalgia for it.

And, you know, as I have grown and culture has grown, a lot of these conversations

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