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The Director-General of the Australian Signals Directorate with Rachel Noble

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News, Education, History

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary Rachel Noble joins Andrew to discuss her role as Director-General of the Australian Signals Directorate. Rachel is the first woman to hold this position. What You’ll Learn Intelligence The Australian Signals Directorate: Its purpose and mission The true story of the Pine Gap spy facility Leadership in Intelligence The SIGINT origins of the Five Eyes alliance Reflections The value of team The importance of work-life balance And much, much more … Quotes of the Week “Women lead differently. We talk differently, we engage in different ways. And I've had to learn to own that about myself and not be tempted to try to be like the guys, compete with them on their own terms, or to adopt male behaviors in order to be heard … [Doing that] doesn't really help other women who might come after me.” – Rachel Noble. Resources SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* Codebreaking and Codemaking Down Under with John Blaxland and Clare Birgin (2024) Australian National Day Special: Intelligence Down Under with John Blaxland (2024) SPY CHIEFS: Director-General of Security Mike Burgess - ASIO, Australia & America (2022) Keeping Secrets/Disclosing Secrets with Spy Chief turned DG of Australia’s National Archives David Fricker (2022) *Beginner Resources* What is SIGINT? YouTube (2020) [2 min. video] Who we are, Australian Signals Directorate (2020) [Short article] Our Agencies, National Intelligence Community of Australia (n.d.) [Overview of each agency in the Australian IC] DEEPER DIVE Primary Sources REDSPICE Blueprint (2022) Report of the Royal Commission on Intelligence and Security (1977) Australian Treaty Series: Five Power Defence Agreements (1971) Australian Treaty Series: Agreement between the Government of the Commonwealth of Australia and the Government of the United States of America relating to the Establishment of a Joint Defence Space Research Facility (1966) Policy file containing Cabinet approval of establishment of Joint Intelligence Organisation and participation of New Zealand Government (1946) ASD Role and effectiveness of Signals Intelligence in World War II (1945) *Wildcard Resource* Rachel mentioned in this podcast episode that one of her favorite treats when coming to the States are Snickerdoodles – A delectable sugar cookie showered in cinnamon-sugar topping. In the cookie world, snickerdoodles are a more recent invention with their first written mention being in an 1889 cookbook. Learn more about the history of cookies here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You're listening to the CyberWirecast, the official podcast of the International Spy Museum.

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I'm your host Dr Andrew Hammond, the museum's historian and curator.

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Each week we explore some aspect of the past, present or future of intelligence and

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espionage.

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If you enjoy the show, please consider leaving us a five-star review,

0:35.4

and will take less than a minute of your time and will really help others find the show.

0:40.9

Coming up next on Spaycast.

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Coming up through my career it wasn't as profound to me that gender difference

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actually until I got to this role and then I genuinely could see the

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glass ceiling and could reach out and touch it. chat and touches. This week I was joined in the studio by Rachel Noble.

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Director General of the Australian Signals Directorate or ASD.

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Her career in intelligence has spanned 30 years culminating in her appointment as Director General in 2020,

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making her the first women to lead an Australian intelligence organization.

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She joined me to discuss the important work of the Australian Signals Directorate and lessons she has learned

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over the decades of her career.

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In this episode, Rachel and I, the Australian Signals Directorate, its purpose and mission,

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the truest story of the Pine Gap spy facility in Australia, leadership and intelligence,

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and the second origins of the Five Eyes Alliance.

1:57.9

The original podcast on Intelligence since 2006,

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we are SpyCast.

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Now sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.

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Thanks ever so much for joining me. It's a pleasure to speak to you.

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