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THE SAVAGE NATION

The Dinosaur Man - With Groundbreaking Animator Steve Williams - #885

THE SAVAGE NATION

Michael Savage

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.411.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Michael Savage speaks with Steve Williams, a pioneer in computer animation. Steve is renowned for his work on major films like Terminator 2 and Jurassic Park, where he developed groundbreaking visual effects including the T-1000 and the T-Rex. They discuss Steve's journey from being a weapons engineer to his significant role at Industrial Light and Magic (ILM), working with high-profile directors such as Steven Spielberg and James Cameron. Steve shares personal anecdotes about his rebellious nature, experiences with famous personalities, and technical insights into computer graphics and animation. The conversation also touches upon the evolution of the film industry, the impact of AI, and Steve's relocation to the Ozarks for a simpler life.

Transcript

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0:00.0

And now the world's most exciting podcast, The Savage Nation, home of borders, language, culture.

0:14.8

Here he is, Michael Savage.

0:19.9

Welcome to the Savage Nation. The Dinosaur Man is with us. I call him that even though he's a lot more

0:25.2

than the dinosaur man, but I want to attract your attention. Steve Williams is a friend of mine.

0:30.8

You may know him from his animations, including the T-1000 and Terminator 2 and the T-Rex in Jurassic Park.

0:39.1

But he's a friend of mine, and he's a pioneer in computer animation.

0:42.8

That's the important thing.

0:45.3

He developed a photorealistic alien made out of seawater,

0:50.0

which later earned the Film and Academy Award for Best Visual Effects for 1989's The Abyss.

0:56.9

Continuing at Industrial Light and Magic, that was Lucas's company,

1:02.2

Steve worked in two more breakthrough moments of computer graphics effects that you consider normal today.

1:09.0

Everyone is doing it, but it was pioneering at the time,

1:12.1

right, Steve? And that earned the company more Oscars, the T-1000 from Terminator 2,

1:17.9

Judgment Day, 1991, a liquid metal robot that evolved from the work done in the abyss

1:24.3

and the dinosaurs of Jurassic Park in 1993, one of which was the

1:30.8

Tyrannosaurus, which Williams personally built. Here's the important thing. Steve was a pioneer

1:37.5

in computer graphics, and as the chief computer graphics animator of The Mask, William shared a nomination for best visual effects at the 67th Academy Awards.

1:51.8

Recently, there was a 22 documentary, you have to look at this called Jurassic Punk, that is the life story of Steve and not just about the dramatic tale of the movie

2:05.6

business, but his lifelong rebellion against the world, which is how Steve and I met many

2:12.3

years ago.

2:13.2

He moved away to the Ozarks from the San Francisco area.

2:18.1

He can no longer take the Snide people.

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