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The Dig: The Reality of Central American Migration with Noelle Brigden

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Socialism, History, News, Left, Jacobin, Alternative, Socialist, Politics

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🗓️ 22 November 2017

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Trump's demagogic rhetoric on MS-13 is designed to obscure the truth about the reality and origins of mass Central American migration: the roots of migration from Central America lie in significant part in the violence unleashed by US-backed dirty wars and deportations of alleged gang members. The demonization of Central American gangs functions to distract the public from US complicity and legitimate a cruel deportation machine. Dan's guest, political scientist Noelle Brigden, has spent years researching on the migrant trail. For more background, check out Dan's Washington Post op-ed washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/07/20/deporting-people-made-central-americas-gangs-more-deportation-wont-help Thanks to our sponsors at Verso Books. Check out Violent Borders: Refugees and the Right to Move by Reece Jones. And please hook us up with some $ at patreon.com/TheDig


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This episode of The Dig is brought to you by our supporters on Patreon and Biverso Books,

0:06.0

which has loads of great left-wing titles, perfect for dig listeners like you.

0:11.0

One that you might like is violent borders, refugees and the right to move by Reese Jones.

0:19.3

40,000 people have died trying to cross between countries in the past decade and yet

0:25.7

international borders only continue to harden. The United Kingdom has voted to

0:31.2

leave the European Union. The United States elected a president who campaigned on building a wall.

0:38.6

While elsewhere, the popularity of right-wing anti-immigrant nationalist parties is surging. We may live in an era of

0:46.2

globalization, he writes. But much of the world is increasingly focused on limiting the free movement of people.

0:55.0

In violent borders, which I've read and found very useful in my own book research,

1:00.2

Jones crosses the migrant trails of the world, documenting the billions spent on border security projects and the dire consequences for countless millions.

1:11.0

While the poor are restricted by the lottery of birth to slum dwellings in the ailing decolonized world,

1:18.0

the wealthy travel without constraint, exploiting pools of cheap labor and lacks environmental regulations.

1:27.0

Violent borders, refugees and the right to move.

1:30.0

By Reese Jones, out now from Verso Books.

1:37.0

Welcome to the dig, a podcast from Jackman magazine.

1:47.0

My name is Daniel Denver and I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island.

1:54.0

Central American migrants, often fleeing for their lives, have arrived at the U.S. border in

1:59.4

huge numbers in recent years.

2:02.4

A tragic reality exploited by right-wing nativists spreading

2:06.3

the fear of a third world invasion that helped make Trump president. And as

2:11.2

president, Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions have made stoking fears over

2:16.7

gangs like Marasavattrucha a favorite topic for their most vicious demagoguery.

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