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🗓️ 14 September 2023
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Produced by Stephen Cassidy Jones and Liza Yeager.
Edited by Mitchell Johnson, with editorial oversight from Daniel Denvir.
Featuring Mark Pilkington, Valerie Kuletz, and Trevor Paglen.
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0:00.0 | This episode of The Dig is brought to you by our listeners who support us at patreon.com |
0:04.6 | and by Haymarket Books, which has loads of great left-wing titles, perfect for dig listeners |
0:10.0 | like you. One that you might like is Blood Red Lines, How Nativism Fuels the Right, |
0:16.4 | by Brendan O'Connor, now available in paperback. In Blood Red Lines, journalist Brendan O'Connor |
0:23.4 | investigates the recent history and politics of U.S. nativism, from the dark money-funded |
0:28.4 | think tanks to the militant reactionaries battling anti-fascists in the streets. As O'Connor argues, |
0:35.5 | a new ideology is emerging, border fascism, one that any movement for working-class liberation |
0:41.7 | will need to reckon with in the struggles to come. Greg Grandin says of the book, Blood Red Lines |
0:48.2 | connects the dots, providing a vivid account of the rise of a unique kind of U.S. fascism, |
0:53.8 | born on the border, but now nationalized. O'Connor simultaneously produces empathy and outrage, |
1:00.6 | in the exact proportions we need to fight back, indispensable. Find Blood Red Lines at haymarketbooks.org, |
1:08.7 | where readers in the U.S. and UK receive free shipping on orders over $25 and 20 pounds, respectively. |
1:16.3 | Hello, and welcome to the sixth episode of The Dig Presents. |
1:30.3 | Maybe you heard this summer that a former Air Force intelligence officer |
1:33.8 | said at a congressional hearing that, basically, the government has been collecting alien bodies. |
1:40.1 | He described it as biological material that was, quote, non-human. |
1:47.1 | Well, we don't know much about that whole situation, but this week we do have a story about UFOs, |
1:54.7 | and also the U.S. military industrial complex, photography, and the geography of the desert. |
2:02.4 | One thing I do need to say first, though, is that I do The Dig as my full-time job, |
2:06.4 | and I pay a bunch of other people to help put this out every week, including these very |
2:11.8 | cool but rather expensive episodes of The Dig Presents. This is a listener-supported operation, |
2:18.8 | and the place where listeners support us is at patreon.com-slashthedig. If you're listening now, |
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