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The Dig: Empire Unhinged with Aslı Bâli & Aziz Rana

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Politics, History, News

4.71.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2020

⏱️ 127 minutes

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Summary

Dan interviews returning guests Aslı Bâli and Aziz Rana on the long history behind the crisis of American imperial legitimation that has become so manifest amid the pandemic.

Some works by Bâli and Rana cited in this interview:

bostonreview.net/war-security-politics-global-justice/asl%C4%B1-u-b%C3%A2li-aziz-rana-sanctions-are-inhumane%E2%80%94now-and-always

lawreview.uchicago.edu/publication/constitutionalism-and-american-imperial-imagination

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1:26.4

What happened to American Empire? We see evidence of crisis at home.

1:31.2

Where mass uprisings have brought the legitimacy of the police in the era of

1:34.8

neoliberal mass incarceration into unprecedented question. The crisis is also

1:40.9

plenty evident abroad as is evident from the US's humiliating failure to tame

1:46.0

COVID-19 and from its bellicose attacks on the WHO and China.

1:51.7

This crisis, of course, isn't new. The so-called American century

1:55.8

had built multilateral institutions through which the US could exercise global power.

2:01.5

But after the fall of the Soviet Union, the unilateralism at the core of American

2:05.7

imperium began to operate free of checks and constraints, and also, increasingly, free of any sort

2:12.3

of legitimating principle.

2:14.5

It's not so much perhaps that the raw materiality of U.S. power is in crisis, but rather that

2:20.1

the rationale for U.S. power is in crisis.

2:24.1

Donald Trump and his brazen disregard for global institutions

2:28.2

then are not a break with the history that has come before

2:31.0

so much as its consummation. This is something with deep roots stretching way

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