The Dig: Dan Denvir’s Theory of Power and Organization
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4.7 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 25 May 2026
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Summary
This one is different: an episode cross-posted from the new podcast Fighting Fascism, where Dig host Daniel Denvir gets behind the guest mic to discuss his political work beyond the pod. Speaking at length for the first time about his own organizing project in Rhode Island, he elaborates his theory of class and political power building.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello. What follows is an interview on the new podcast Fighting Fascism, hosted by Aaron Rakenberg, |
| 0:08.1 | Matt De Silva, and Jonathan Smucker, affiliated with The Nation magazine. It explores the past, |
| 0:14.8 | present, and possible futures of right-wing authoritarianism to draw lessons for today's fights against Trump, MAGA, |
| 0:22.9 | and the growing threat of 21st century fascism. |
| 0:26.6 | I'm posting this episode on the digs feed because their guest this week is me, Daniel Denver, |
| 0:33.3 | and I'm really happy to post it because I've really never spoken at length in this way about |
| 0:40.4 | the Rhode Island organizing work that I dedicate a lot of my life to. |
| 0:45.8 | I mean, I really have a whole alternate life here in Rhode Island building class and political |
| 0:53.9 | power. And more generally, this gets into a lot of my thoughts on organization building and political struggle. Okay, here it is Daniel Denver, me, on fighting fascism. |
| 1:18.1 | One fine morning, I was awakened. |
| 1:22.5 | Oh, bella, chow, bella, chow, chow, chow. One fine morning, I was awakened to find the fascists at my door. |
| 1:31.5 | Oh, Partizano, take me with you. |
| 1:35.2 | Oh, Bella, chow, bella, chow, chow, chow, chow, chou. |
| 1:38.7 | Ciao, chow, Partizano, please take me with you. |
| 1:42.2 | I don't feel frightened anymore |
| 1:45.0 | Well, hello and welcome to another episode of the Fighting Fascism podcast |
| 1:50.0 | I'm your co-host Aaron Regenberg and I'm here with friend of the pod Jonathan Smucker |
| 1:55.0 | Hey hey |
| 1:57.0 | And we're actually not here with our co-host, Matt De Silva, today. |
| 2:01.2 | He had a catering gig that came up and he needed the money. |
| 2:04.5 | So he's taking it. |
| 2:05.3 | But we're very excited today to be in conversation with our mutual friend, Dan Denver. |
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