Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying Free Now.com, and you're listening to the

Flying Free Podcast, a support resource for Women of faith, looking for hope and healing from hidden

emotional and spiritual abuse.

Welcome to episode 20 of the Flying Free broadcast.

Today I have with me Rachel again

and we are going to be talking about

the differences between a healthy marriage and an unhealthy marriage.

And both Rachel and I have, we're both divorced, so we have experienced destructive a destructive marriage destructive

relationship and I'm remarried so and I'm in a healthy relationship now and

Rachel is also she's not remarried yet, but she is in a healthy relationship and so we thought it might be helpful for those of you who are listening to maybe hear what some of the differences are because I remember

when I was married to my ex-husband I would tell people about some of the things that I was going through and they would just say, well, that's normal. Everybody does that. You know, guys just all struggle with that. So I really struggled with thinking that the destructive behavior that I was experiencing was normal.

And it would have been helpful for me to actually hear about what a normal, I just thought that to expect anything, to expect good things out of a marriage was just expecting too much.

And so Rachel, hello.

Are you ready to do that?

Yes, I'm excited to talk about this.

I was just thinking to myself how wonderful it is to look back and see how much your life has changed.

I can see the way things used to be and they are not even in the realm of the way things are now.

So, I'm really grateful for that.

Well, and you know, one of the... I was just talking to a lady today and she was telling me that she always

thought that she in her former relationship that she was you know her

her ex would tell her that she had problems communicating and that she had

problems with you know that she was the one with relationship problems basically.

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