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The Michael Steele Podcast

The Dictators Who Want to Run the World (with Anne Applebaum)

The Michael Steele Podcast

Two Squared Media

Politics, News, History, Government

4.83.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Michael Steele speaks with Pulitzer Prize-winning author and staff writer at The Atlantic, Anne Applebaum about her new book, "Autocracy, Inc.: The Dictators Who Want to Run the World.” The pair discuss the network of countries united by their common interest in maintaining absolute power, the reasons why people are attracted to autocratic regimes, the tactics used by modern autocrats, and the importance of civic engagement in preserving democracy. 

Check out the book here: https://www.amazon.com/Autocracy-Inc-Dictators-Want-World/dp/0385549938

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0:00.0

We have nationalist Russia, we have theocratic Iran, we have Bolivarian socialists Venezuela.

0:06.9

None of them want to have checks and balances or transparency or the rule of law.

0:12.3

And they're also united in their dislike of us.

0:17.0

And us is you and me and probably everyone listening to this podcast.

0:21.0

Anybody who wants to live or who thinks it's important to live in a state that

0:25.7

does have checks and balances that is a liberal democracy where people do have rights. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Michael Steele podcast. Yes, you are, you've landed at the right spot,

0:44.0

and I love it when you do.

0:45.4

You can listen to us on Apple Podcast,

0:47.6

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0:51.0

with our friends over at I Heart, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast.

0:55.0

This podcast is part of the Bull Work Network and I've been having fun at the Bull Work and enjoying my friends over there. I hope you're enjoying us as well. You can

1:06.1

find them on social media at Bullwork online and you can enjoy this episode, you know, like it,

1:15.0

like it, share it, fall in love with it, right?

1:20.0

Because that's what we try to do.

1:21.7

I'm excited for this episode. I'm really happy to welcome to the mic and Applebaum, you know, who spent 17 years as a columnist at the Washington Post

1:36.1

becoming a staff writer at the Atlantic in 2020.

1:40.9

She is the author of five critically award-winning books including Twilight of Democracy

1:47.4

between East and West and Gulag, which was the winner of the Pulitzer Prize. She is quite the jet-setter, if you will. She divides her time between Poland where her husband is a foreign minister, is the foreign minister and Washington, D.C.

2:09.0

She joins us in, I think, a very important conversation around her new book, Artocracy Inc, the dictators who want to run the world. And we get into what this new landscape, not just globally but here in the US really looks like what are some

2:28.0

it's underpinnings and why it's important that we pay attention to what's happening to our democracy and the control that we still have as we the people.

2:38.0

Anne Applebaum and her new book, Autocracy Inc. coming up here on the Michael Steele podcast next.

2:46.0

Hey everybody, welcome to the Michael Steele podcast.

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