The Devil You Know Introduces | The Expert Witness
The Devil You Know with Sarah Marshall
CBC
4.6 • 751 Ratings
🗓️ 19 May 2026
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
It’s here. AI has arrived in the criminal justice system and it’s in the role of witness. The Expert Witness, hosted by Sam Mullins asks: what happens when AI enters the courtroom? Who is benefitting from this mysterious technology? And who’s accountable when AI gets it wrong? More episodes of The Expert Witness are available wherever you get your podcasts, and here: https://link.mgln.ai/TEWxTDYK
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| 0:00.0 | We're Sarah Turney and Courtney Nicole. |
| 0:03.0 | Crime has impacted both of our families, |
| 0:05.8 | teaching us how the last conversations, the missed red flags, can change everything. |
| 0:11.1 | On the final hours, we examine the moments before a disappearance and the questions that never got answered. |
| 0:17.2 | Listen to and follow the final hours wherever you get your podcast. |
| 0:21.2 | New episodes every Monday. |
| 0:24.5 | This is a CBC podcast. |
| 0:30.2 | What happens when AI enters the courtroom? |
| 0:34.1 | And who's accountable when AI gets it wrong? |
| 0:40.4 | Hi, I'm Sam Mullins, and I'm a writer and podcaster, and I created the critically acclaimed podcasts, Chameleon Wild Boys and Sea of Lies from |
| 0:47.3 | CBC's Uncover. And I want to tell you about my brand new podcast. It's called The Expert Witness. |
| 0:57.2 | The small city of Akron, Ohio, was drowning in unsolved murders until one day something happened, and suddenly those cold cases started |
| 1:04.0 | to get closed. A groundbreaking Canadian AI technology was coming to the rescue, tracking criminal behavior to bring justice where humans had failed. |
| 1:16.8 | But as the cases stack up and charges are laid, two lawyers grow skeptical. |
| 1:22.8 | Human cracks begin to appear in this mysterious new technology. |
| 1:27.6 | Can the doubters open up this black box and reveal its true workings before it takes hold |
| 1:33.6 | across the world? |
| 1:35.1 | Right now, here's the first episode of The Expert Witness. |
| 1:39.1 | Have a listen. |
| 1:43.1 | Cheryl Ross Beck always knew what she wanted. |
| 1:47.0 | She wanted a girl. |
| 1:49.1 | Everybody that I know of my friends have daughters. |
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