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Today, Explained

The devil’s bargain on inflation

Today, Explained

Vox

News, Daily News, Politics

4.310.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2022

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

The Federal Reserve knows raising interest rates disproportionately hurts Black people. It just doesn’t have any better tools, says the Minneapolis Fed’s Neel Kashkari. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Efim Shapiro, and hosted by Noel King. Transcript at vox.com/todayexplained Support Today, Explained by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This year, the Federal Reserve has raised interest rates four times.

0:06.0

The Fed did so to fight the 9-ish percent inflation that's making life, groceries, gas,

0:10.7

cars, furniture, all the things a lot more expensive.

0:14.2

But there's a trade-off.

0:15.3

When interest rates go up, jobs take a hit.

0:17.6

The Fed talks about this trade-off all the time.

0:20.9

There is a thing they talk about far less.

0:23.6

Who is going to lose jobs?

0:25.6

Black Americans face twice the unemployment as white Americans, no matter what kind of

0:30.2

an economy we have, a booming economy, or a recession.

0:34.0

This is not something the Fed talks about all the time.

0:36.7

Although these conversations are happening at high-level meetings and at dinners.

0:41.4

The sort of agreed upon vibe was one of just feeling really, really bad about it.

0:47.2

Coming up on today, explained the devil's bargain we make to fight inflation.

0:52.2

And we get to ask a Federal Reserve being president whether we can do anything other than

0:56.5

feel really, really bad about it.

1:01.3

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