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ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general

ups and downs of making a life in music.

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to organize your A-DAT tapes or else a scrappy upstart

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excuse to put off actually writing. Hey guys, it's the third Friday of June 2020. I'm glad that you're here. Thanks for being here.

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