This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. She would go sit outside and smoke,

and she was sitting on the phone talking to him. And I put my ear to the glass on our sliding

glass door and listen. I caught conversations of them talking about, if I put this car in your

name, she won't get it. And at that point,

I was like, if you ain't for me, you're against me.

I'm Andrea Gunning. This is Betrayal Season 3, Episode 3. The Devil. A listener note,

some names have been changed to protect privacy. The Rutherford family was broken. Stacey threw Justin out of the house after detectives served a search warrant to collect electronic devices from their home.

Stacey learned that a hitting camera had been placed in an upstairs bathroom.

The device recorded thousands of images of mostly children and some adults using the bathroom and shower naked.

Soon after the raid, a teenage boy confided in Stacy's daughter Michaela that Justin Rutherford had sexually abused him during a sleepover.

Stacey and the Littles were staying at Michaela's apartment while they got the house ready to sell so they can move back to the Virginia area.

Tyler, Stacy's son, was already there staying with his aunt Heather so that he wouldn't miss his first day at his new school.

Heather received a call from Stacy that Justin may only be charged with a misdemeanor for the hidden camera.

Heather was upset and was worried that there was more to this story.

My sister had just called me and she's crying and she's like, this is crazy.

Like, how are they going to let him go?

And I'm like, I know, you know, God's got this.

We're going to figure this out. Like, I do not believe in my heart of hearts that this man is going to walk free. And Tyler's listening to this. I got off the phone, and he was helping me fold laundry. And I said, man, buddy, I said, I don't know, we got to do some serious praying. He's like, why? What's up?

I said, they're talking about only charging Justin with the cameras.

He goes, well, what does that mean?

And I said, well, that probably means that your little brother will have visitation with his father in due time. And he just looked at me with the look I will never forget. And his eyes welled up with tears. And Tyler says he'll never see the outside of a prison when I tell them what I know.

A couple hours later, Stacey received a cryptic message from her sister, Heather.

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