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I'm Rebecca LaVoy and this is crime writers on the podcast about other podcasts and also about pop culture true crime journalism and this week.

We've got some big true crime updates in court cases from s town and the where the slender man then we'll go back to the seventies when peep shows and hookers and times square were the quaint before pictures to the hardcore after in HBO's new series the doose.

So joining me to get all that done and by the way a whole lot more is my true crime co author real life husband and host of these are their stories lawn order podcast Kevin Flynn hello Kevin.

Hey Rebecca it's so good to have you be be here.

You mean like after we had just had dinner just upstairs also with us is journalist true crime author licensed private investigator former defense investigators certified cat lady an expert house painter Laura Bricker hello Laura hello I have finally finished my entrance why people it only took how long.

A week so depending like like a lot of wall.

Yeah it's very impressive and finally we have the weddest of wet blankets the brilliant novelist behind the city trilogy and co host of radio free dystopia the podcast Toby ball hello Toby 30 and 10 Rebecca.

Okay what does that mean isn't that what all the prostitutes say when the guys flop 30 and 10.

Yes 30 for the day 10 for the room you know that from watching the doose you know that from your life is what I want now there has not been any 30 and 10 anywhere.

I don't that those that was a previous life yes I don't think you can even go to Thailand and get it for 30 and yeah I know 70s pricing right there right.

Well I do want to just like do a couple little updates for start the show by the way listeners will be very excited to know we already know we're going to talk about next week.

We're going to do a little bit of a double bill by popular demand we're going to be talking about two netflix shows the true crime parody American vandal.

And the confession tapes which a lot of our listeners have been tweeting to us about an emailing us about so that's not homework that's just a saying that's we're going to be talking about next week and we just wanted to let you know.

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