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The Denver Four Part 2 of 2

DNA: ID

AbJack Entertainment

True Crime, Society & Culture

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Episode 164 The Denver Four Part 2 of 2

This is part 2 of the Denver Four case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now and go back and listen to that part first. 

 

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0:00.0

Detective Kerry Johnson was assigned to the Denver PD's Cold Case Unit in 2016. This was before

0:06.5

the Parks case from Adams County was linked to the three Denver cases. Those three cases were

0:11.6

currently assigned to Cold Case Detective Jamie Cisneros. Sysneros and Johnson reviewed all three

0:17.5

case files, cross-referencing in vain hopes that a possible suspect would

0:21.2

be mentioned in at least two of them. They considered the geographic triangulation of the three

0:26.2

cases and looked to see if anyone on the law enforcement radar was connected to that area.

0:31.5

And they followed up on leads in any of the cases that they considered to be unresolved.

0:35.9

They noted that during the Madeline Livuday

0:38.1

investigation, a witness reported seeing a van with some type of TV repair logo in front of Madeline's

0:43.9

home around the time of her murder. Police back then had never been able to identify the driver of the van,

0:49.8

but Detective Cisneros had successfully tracked down an individual who, at the time,

0:54.8

had been on duty for a TV repair company in the area of Madeline's home.

0:59.1

The original report said that while on patrol,

1:02.2

Officer Hoffman observed a 1962 white Ford van with colored TV service written on the rear side windows.

1:09.7

Thanks to modern computerized databases, the detectives learned that the van was registered

1:14.2

to a man I'm calling Gerard.

1:16.6

His son Jerry had been named by a witness as possibly being the driver of the van the

1:20.7

witness saw that day, and he had a past criminal history for sexual assault in Colorado

1:25.2

and Virginia.

1:26.6

He had never been contacted.

1:29.1

Detective Johnson and Cisneros flew to North Carolina to interview Jerry on November 9th, 2017.

1:35.2

Jerry confirmed that his father owned a TV repair service in Denver, but said they were estranged,

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