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The demolition of the East Wing.

Tangle

Isaac Saul

News, Trump, Independent, News Commentary, Congress, Us Politics, Us News, Election, Us House Of Representatives, Local News, Us Senate, Nonpartisan, International News, Biden, Politics

4.7818 Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Over the past week, construction crews have demolished the White House’s East Wing to make way for a new ballroom to host large events for world leaders and other guests. After initially saying the project would not impact existing infrastructure, President Donald Trump acknowledged on Wednesday that the entire East Wing would be destroyed; by Thursday, it was completely razed. The Trump administration says a new East Wing will be built along with the ballroom. 


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Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take.

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I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and on today's episode, we're going to be talking about the East Wing demolition at the White House and the proposed ballroom that is going to replace it.

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