From New York Times opinion, I'm Ross Douthan, and this is interesting times. The 2024 election didn't just return Donald Trump to the White House.

It also left the Democrats confronting a potentially era-defining defeat.

But here we are in 2006.

President Trump is deeply unpopular, and Democrats are leading in the midterm polls. Still, I want to know what are they actually for?

Have they learned anything from their 2024 defeat?

On immigration especially? Do they have leaders who are capable of speaking to

swing voters while also wooing a party base that's girded for an existential battle? And are they

ready for the dawning age and the new politics of artificial intelligence.

And who better to answer all of these questions than my guest this week, Chris Hayes,

who spends every weeknight talking to some of the most liberal viewers in America,

as the host of All In with Chris Hayes on MS Now.

And I just want to note, Chris and I recorded this conversation just before President Trump launched a military campaign against Iran. But I don't think the issues we discussed

have changed that much, or at least not yet. Chris Hayes, welcome to interesting times.

It's great to be here. It's great to have you.

So you are, in my own mind, at least, not just a nightly news host and a podcaster, but a true man of the left.

I think that's true.

Is that fair?

Yes.

So when we first met, you were writing for In These Times.

Yes, that's right.

Which for those who don't know is a classic classical.

I don't even know what it was.

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