The Democratic ICE Divide Explodes plus Liberal Chaos comes to Church
The Ben Ferguson Podcast
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🗓️ 24 January 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
1. Democratic Politicians and Activists
- Some Democratic officials and activists are calling for the abolition of ICE and even policing in general.
- Democratic leaders (senators, mayors, city council members) are accused of:
- Discouraging cooperation with ICE
- Downplaying or excusing protests that escalate into harassment or church disruptions
- Using rhetoric that dehumanizes ICE agents, comparing them to oppressive forces
- Specific figures are cited (e.g., Chris Van Hollen, Tina Smith, Stacey Abrams) as allegedly enabling or spreading anti‑ICE sentiment.
2. Focus on Minneapolis / St. Paul Events
- A church in Minnesota where protesters entered during a worship service, allegedly harassing congregants and targeting a pastor believed to have ICE connections.
- Failed to condemn the action
- Framed the protesters as peaceful or justified
- Contributed to a hostile environment toward ICE enforcement.
3. Don Lemon Allegations
- Don Lemon is accused of:
- Embedding with activist groups before the church incident
- Live‑streaming the protest inside the church
- Misrepresenting his role as that of a neutral journalist
- The U.S. DOJ warned him about violations related to disrupting religious services.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.7 | Democrats are now in a civil war. |
| 0:07.8 | Many Democrats are saying it's time to get rid of ice altogether, literally abolish ice. |
| 0:15.1 | And they're angry that there are not more Democrats coming along. |
| 0:19.0 | That's where the civil war comes in. There are other Democrats |
| 0:22.6 | who are like, we can't say that publicly. Like, we know we want to abolish ICE and we are the same |
| 0:27.7 | party that says we want to get rid of police officers. But now, how do you actually accomplish this? |
| 0:34.5 | That is the debate they're having on TV. Now, they're going back to their old playbook, |
| 0:39.6 | which is to demonize, dehumanize, and try to convince Americans that ICE agents are the Gestapo, |
| 0:47.4 | that ICE agents are not crime fighters, not actually going after the worst that are out there that are illegal immigrants. |
| 0:55.5 | You know, the rapists and the murderers and the sex traffickers and the drug dealers. |
| 1:00.7 | No, no, no, no. |
| 1:01.8 | They want you to believe that somehow that is ice. |
| 1:05.6 | And the do-gooders are the people that broke into this country that are also committing heinous crimes. |
| 1:12.4 | Take a listen to Chris Van Hollen. |
| 1:15.5 | This is what he had to say is he's trying to rewrite history. |
| 1:19.7 | And there's a theme that is happening. |
| 1:21.7 | This is orchestrated by the Democratic Party. |
| 1:25.4 | Listen to what he said about the deranged leftists that are impeding |
| 1:31.3 | ICE operations and what he calls them. |
| 1:34.3 | One of the things that gives me great hope, even amidst all of this division and chaos |
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